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Accident: Sun Express B738 at Antalya on May 1st 2016, nose gear retracted at gate

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A Sun Express Boeing 737-800, registration TC-SNP performing flight XQ-366 from Antalya (Turkey) to Paderborn (Germany), was preparing for departure at the gate, passengers had not yet boarded, technicians were working to replace one of the nose gear tyres when the nose gear retracted. A technician received minor head, two cabin crew members minor injuries, all were taken to a hospital. (avherald.com) المزيد...

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Highflyer1950
Highflyer1950 3
I must have missed something here. If they were replacing a nose wheel and had the gear jacked up, why would you even think about removing the gear pin as it has nothing to do with tire changing! Not being a mechanic, but I seem to remember an incident where a disgruntled mech set up the crew by, disabling the wow switch, removing the gear pin, selecting the gear lever up, turning on the electric hydraulic pump ( all on a dark airplane) and when the crew arrived for preflight, they turned on the battery switches and the nose gear rolled out (retracted) from under them.
tcmarks
Tim Marks 3
The accident report provides contradictory information, first it states the nose gear retracted, then later states the nose gear collapsed. This is two differing failures, one is likely caused by incorrect indications to the aircraft systems for WOW (weight on wheels), the other is indicative of a mechanical failure mechanism. From the verbiage of the report, it seems the former is most likely true, the WOW was probably faulty or bypassed, and somehow a gear retract activation was sensed by the aircraft system. Since there was maintenance occurring during the time of the accident, it is most likely someone was not following a procedure.
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 5
Was the technician that received minor head, in the cockpit???
AABABY
AABABY 2
I wonder what Preacher would say.
Highflyer1950
Highflyer1950 4
I'm guessing the proper maintenance procedure was not followed.
gearup328
Peter Steitz 2
I guess if the gear was purposely retracted, the gear override must have been used because WOW would prevent retraction on the ground. Once they extracted the nose gear pin, the guy in the cockpit raised the handle again and obviously the nose gear retracted. It didn't collapse. I assume the mains were pinned. Funny that if he acted really quick and put the handle down again, the gear might have come down to prevent the damage.
sanukjim
James Wilson Jr 2
Some stupid mechanic on the ground did not place the nose gear pin properly and idiot number two (might be the same one) moved the gear retract lever while in the flight deck.Two dumb mistakes.
jcsjcs
jcsjcs 0
What about this version, taken from the comments under the linked article?

"One of the gear pins got stuck, they tried to get it loose by pressurizing the hydraulic system and then tried to cycle the gear. At this moment the unlucky technician was able to remove the pin but due to a lack of communication another technician still cycled the gear... The technician was fully conscious but was brought to the hospital just in case. The aircraft is fine/only has minor damage and will be probably be back in the air next week.."

But some people always think they know everything :-(
sanukjim
James Wilson Jr 7
I was an aircraft mechanic for over 40 + years and a crew chief on the ramp for a major airlines.I know how this operation works.First of all you do not remove the pin on the gate,only after push out or in a few cases just before power back.No one in their right mind would ever raise the gear on the gate or any where with out the proper safety procedures performed.This was a screw up by one or more stupid mechanics. And yes I don't know about everything but I DO KNOW ABOUT THIS>
mariofer
mariofer 3
I am not a mechanic and I don't know about everything and even I know this LOL. I guess folks like the one on the article are the reason why we have labels saying not to use a hair dryer in the bath tub.....
joelwiley
joel wiley 2
Smart people do dumb things. Dumb people do so also, only more often.
jbqwik
jbqwik 2
Uh-oh, that'll require a complete inspection. There must be some sort of built-in mechanical safety to prevent this? (thinking out loud:) I suppose there's a way to defeat anything...
dodger4
dodger4 1
Oooops.

Murphy's Law...?
gearup328
Peter Steitz 1
I've spent plenty of time in maintenance hangars.I would never work in or around a wheel well without the pin being in with the red flag clearly visible. If an aircraft were up on jacks and the gear retracted and doors closed---you're dead.

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