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Grumman C-1 Trader (N189G)
1955 Grumman C-1 Trader on the flightline taxi - Oshkosh '23 Friday Warbird Show.
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Always impressed how Grumman managed to build a twin engine plane this compact with carrier capability.
Great shot - shows off its size well.
Great shot - shows off its size well.
Didn't use the catapults to launch, either
Ahhhh what a sound
no catapults, we used to watch them back these planes almost to the round down on the flight deck
hit the throttles and slowly watch it get going, just in time to lift off. impressive as all heck
hit the throttles and slowly watch it get going, just in time to lift off. impressive as all heck
what model of engines did this aircraft have?
@Philip Holt
9 cylinder Wright Cyclone R-1820
9 cylinder Wright Cyclone R-1820
Ted Fredrick Robert Sloane
The C-1 COD could be cat-ed off, using the bridle.
There were hooks for the bridle loops on the underside of the fuselage.
The C-1 COD could be cat-ed off, using the bridle.
There were hooks for the bridle loops on the underside of the fuselage.
I was a passenger in the COD in late 1962. It was a deck launch from the USS Enterprise (CVAN65). Quite a ride!!
The picture last week of this airplane airborne shows the Navy Bureau number 146044 on the fuselage under the horizontal stabilizer, and the squadron identifier of VRC 40 under the large word NAVY on the aft fuselage. Both pictures indicate the aircraft still belonged to VRC 40 but was assigned to the Enterprise as represented in the pictures.
I have this aircraft in my logbook from my time in VRC 40 from January 1968 through March 1970. It was a lot of fun to fly. A very versatile aircraft, it carried a crew of 3, although without passengers only the Aircraft Commander and a copilot or trainee pilot were required. When “working” it carried up to 8 passengers , or 3,000 lbs of cargo, or a mixture, in addition to the crew of 3. If I recall correctly, Gross Takeoff Weight was 23,500 lbs. Engines were R1820, developing 1300-1350 HP, I don’t remember for sure. Sorry.
As mentioned, we could deck launch without needing a catapult. However we fairly often did use the catapult, whichever the carrier wanted us to do.
At the carrier, we came aboard at 85 kts, essentially 100 mph. We used full flaps, and the open hatches over each crew seat as well as aft near the door, for rapid egress if needed.
The plane handled so well that I went aboard the Saratoga one day with the ship dead in the water, reporting a 4 kt tailwind over the deck. No problem!
I have this aircraft in my logbook from my time in VRC 40 from January 1968 through March 1970. It was a lot of fun to fly. A very versatile aircraft, it carried a crew of 3, although without passengers only the Aircraft Commander and a copilot or trainee pilot were required. When “working” it carried up to 8 passengers , or 3,000 lbs of cargo, or a mixture, in addition to the crew of 3. If I recall correctly, Gross Takeoff Weight was 23,500 lbs. Engines were R1820, developing 1300-1350 HP, I don’t remember for sure. Sorry.
As mentioned, we could deck launch without needing a catapult. However we fairly often did use the catapult, whichever the carrier wanted us to do.
At the carrier, we came aboard at 85 kts, essentially 100 mph. We used full flaps, and the open hatches over each crew seat as well as aft near the door, for rapid egress if needed.
The plane handled so well that I went aboard the Saratoga one day with the ship dead in the water, reporting a 4 kt tailwind over the deck. No problem!
Thank you Russel; for the comment AND your service
@Ted Fredrick Well actually they did, at least the S2F for certain. My Dad (in VS-34) got they only known S2F water touch-and-go landing in the eastern Mediterranean, thanks to a "cold-cat" shot (Essex had older, hydraulic catapults then). Somehow Dad was able to retract the landing gear before the airplane hit the water. It bounced hard, then slowly climbed out of the waves & into the air.
When they returned after their mission, it was found that the water impact buckled the fuselage underbelly skin, but the old girl still flew!
When they returned after their mission, it was found that the water impact buckled the fuselage underbelly skin, but the old girl still flew!
Parabéns pela linda foto
Russel.....Thank you so much for your service & the commentary adding much to the photo. Actually your description is quite a bit more than the pic.
It is so neat to come across a former flight crew that is proud and loves the aircraft that he / she has time in.
Once again, thank you so much for your firsthand experience with N189G
It is so neat to come across a former flight crew that is proud and loves the aircraft that he / she has time in.
Once again, thank you so much for your firsthand experience with N189G
Thanks all for your very interesting stories (some firsthand) with this old Grumman Bird.
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