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Accident: Southwest B737 near Denver on Apr 24th 2015, loss of cabin pressure

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A Southwest Airlines Boeing 737-800, registration N8647A performing flight WN-100 from Las Vegas,NV to Milwaukee,WI (USA) with 175 passengers and 6 crew, was enroute at FL370 about 250nm southwest of Denver,CO (USA), when the crew initiated an emergency descent to 16,000 feet due to the loss of cabin pressure, the passenger oxygen masks were not released, and diverted to Denver for a safe landing on runway 35L. Prior to landing emergency services at Denver had been told about a number of… (avherald.com) المزيد...

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Mike Schacht منذ 8 سنوات 8

It's classified as an accident because "one passenger slipped during disembarking the aircraft, fell and was taken to a hospital with an injury."

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linbb منذ 8 سنوات 7

Think that this is classified as an incident not a headline grabbing ACCIDENT. Just another day at the farm.

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Chuck Me منذ 8 سنوات 4

Definitions from the site:

"Incident marks any event out of the ordinary during flight (from the first human with the intention to fly boarding the aircraft to last human with intention to fly leaving the aircraft), that causes no injuries or death to any people and causes only limited damage (exception: the engines of an aircraft may suffer even catastrophic damage in an incident).
Accident marks an incident, that has caused injuries or death to humans or caused significant damage.
Crash marks an accident, that is potentially catastrophic (has the potential to kill everybody on board of an airplane)."

Yeah, it didn't bend metal. But I assume the injury during evacuation makes it an "accident". Simon isn't one to make headlines just for clicks. He has standard (and some would argue rigid) criteria for these things.

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joel wiley منذ 8 سنوات 3

I stand corrected. Tkank you.

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btweston منذ 8 سنوات -6

Yes. Airplanes are supposed to depressurize in flight, requiring an emergency descent. Totally normal...

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Brian Bishop منذ 8 سنوات 3

There's a big difference between an "Accident" and an "Incident" to the FAA. If you're gonna play here, it would be helpful to know that.

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preacher1 منذ 8 سنوات 5

It was pretty much an incident but had o go into the accident category because as the 1st post notes, somebody slipped and fell and hurt themselves. Probably setting up for a lawsuit.

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Pileits منذ 8 سنوات 4

AVherald is a VERY good website regarding airline incidents and accidents is run by just one man as far as I know and he produces a website about aviation information that no others do, simply the REAL known facts not garbage like CNN or FAUXNEWS does.
I read it daily and it is the "goto" website for many who want accurate accident / incident information.

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joel wiley منذ 8 سنوات 1

If it is being run by a single individual, he just may have slipped up momentarily with accident vs incident. Possible spell-check autocorrupter involvement.

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John Smith منذ 8 سنوات 1

Great job crew for landing the plane safely.

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jim garrity منذ 8 سنوات 1

San Gorg. is 11,502ft.Been there,done that,(when I was young)! Some fun times flying into LAX when you can see thru the SMOG!Evening arrival always IFR due to "City of Angel breath"off the nose.

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C Anderson منذ 8 سنوات 1

Is The Aviation Herald the new National Enquirer - all headline, no substance? Have actual journalists finally gone extinct? We now know that one can get more accurate information from Trade-A-Plane than from The Aviation Herald.

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preacher1 منذ 8 سنوات 1

Don't really know where you are coming from on this. Everything that has been posted about a happening has been as accurate as can be with known information.

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btweston منذ 8 سنوات -3

Do you work for Southwest?

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Brian Bishop منذ 8 سنوات 4

There are very few people on these boards with Preacher's cred's. Troll somewhere else.

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Richard Bushey منذ 8 سنوات 1

Agree. No commenter on FA is more credible than Preacher!

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C Anderson منذ 8 سنوات 1

If I understand you, the gentleman is more of an information "aggregater" rather than journalist, in which case his accuracy would be dependent on his source. OK. I get that, and mean no disrespect to the gentleman. I suppose I've grown accustomed to the CNN/MSNBC types which has helped me to develop low expectations.

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Alcides Segovia منذ 8 سنوات 1

Shall we put all the other Avherald incidents into flightaware? This is probably the 10th depressurization this month why put this one and call it an accident? Hopefully no one from CNN is watching or they will say that Southwest flies planes with their doors open.

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Mark Lansdell منذ 8 سنوات 1

There ya go. I have the same questions. Last week there was a "suspected depressurization" under the United livery where several lassed out. You can't reprint um all.

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william baker منذ 8 سنوات 0

Another Southwest plane that has lost cabin pressure in the matter of 5 years. Maybe they need to look into there planes more or have some more personal from the faa to look into there servicing of there aircraft.

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preacher1 منذ 8 سنوات 4

With as many planes that they have and flights that they run, if 2 in 5 years is all they have had, that ain't bad. I'm a thinkin' that after the big one in AZ a few years back, thaey are on a different inspection cycle anyway.

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preacher1 منذ 8 سنوات 0

It should also be noted that the one in AZ was a hull split. This one was an instrument indication. Admittedly they were a few problems people wise but not anything like a full emergency descent. They did go as low as they could considering terrain but got vectored on down pretty quick.

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btweston منذ 8 سنوات 2

The article certainly says "emergency descent."

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btweston منذ 8 سنوات -4

Really? I would think that this should not ever happen. And I think this would be three in five years.

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30west منذ 8 سنوات 5

Yes, it it would be nice if aircraft systems never malfunctioned. However, that is not reality. We consistently train to deal with malfunctions and failures that are, in reality, a fact of life now and always will be.

Southwest has a remarkable safety record, one fatal accident (a person on the ground died as a result of a runway excursion) in their 40+ year history. Considering the number of their daily flight operations conducted over those decades underscores that most enviable safety record.

BTW, I have never flown for Southwest, have competed with them and I respect their operation.

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preacher1 منذ 8 سنوات 1

I personally am glad that the flight crew had enough awareness to realize where they were and didn't make an arbitrary dive to 10k. That could have been ugly. I was coming into LIT on one a couple years back. I was sitting next to a SWA pilot deadheading to there and we were just critiquing the Captain. CAVU out of DAL, but turned ugly wx about 30 miles out of LIT. He had ordered no cabin service out of DAL, afraid the system might build and FA's get caught short. He came on intercom and said there was a tornado headed for the field, still in the air. He said if he could not get on the ground ahead of it and secure that we were going back to DAL. He made like a fighter pilot and we dove in and offloaded, but security inside was getting everybody to cover as we came off the plane. It never did touch down but it was low enough that you could hear it go over.

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30west منذ 8 سنوات 2

The gouge at my airline was if an emergency descent was ever required at night or in IMC west of the Front Range, it would stop at 16,000 ft versus the normal 10,000 ft until exact position relative to terrain could be positively established. That would always guarantee adequate terrain clearance in the lower forty-eight.

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preacher1 منذ 8 سنوات 1

That may be with them too, not sure, at any rate, glad they stopped there. I think 9k was top right there but there was some 12k stuff close by.

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30west منذ 8 سنوات 1

Amen brother!

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preacher1 منذ 8 سنوات 1

Yeah, I think over on the East Side is Mt. Mitchell there in the Carolina's but it is just some over 6 grand

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30west منذ 8 سنوات 1

And a number of mountains in the Sierra at 14+

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preacher1 منذ 8 سنوات 0

You miss most of that going into LAX don't you?

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30west منذ 8 سنوات 1

Mount San Jacinto near Palm Springs was the last big hurdle on the CIVIT Arrival (if they haven't renamed it in the last few years), I'm guessing about 12,000'. I'm like you, don't want to dig out the books.

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joel wiley منذ 8 سنوات 1

I used to hike thru the remains of a C-47 on the East slope of Mt San Gorgonio, on the north side of the pass there. It was descending into Norton AFB at around 10K and old Grayback tops at over 11.

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preacher1 منذ 8 سنوات 1

I guess he had an ouchy!

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preacher1 منذ 8 سنوات 1

Everybody has a favorite they remember, like DIRTY in North GA. It was just always comical to me to even look at it and wonder about how some of these got their names and then listen to ATC giving it to a guy that had never been there before a listening to their reaction.

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preacher1 منذ 8 سنوات 1

Idk about the arrival name either. Most of the time we went into ONT and drove in wherever we needed to. Lot less crowded out the and the 10/12 grand on runway length was more than we had at home. Besides, we all tried to find an excuse to get out there at NASCAR time. LOL

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preacher1 منذ 8 سنوات 1

I'm just asking as I haven't been out that way in about 2 years and I don't want to walk into the closet and dig out that bag. LOL

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preacher1 منذ 8 سنوات 0

If memory serves correct, the lowest Highway crossing of the divide is down in Southern NM and it is about 8800'.

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preacher1 منذ 8 سنوات 4

Well, you are correct in that it shouldn't happen at all. Mu point is, for all the Southwest Haters out there, is that their record is no worse than anyone else's and far better than some. The reason they have gained such notoriety is that hull split 2-3 years ago in AZ and even the, they were within requirements of the airframe mfg(Boeing).

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Mark Lansdell منذ 8 سنوات 1

I know of no man nor machine that is infallible. We as men design machines so as not to break, but we just haven't reached that level yet. They break and fail in spite of our best efforts. So we call on highly educated, highly trained individuals to pilot and repair these magnificent machines with a million or more parts. As with your automobile, a sensor can stop it's operation. How many times have you driven it anyway with the check engine light on?. I don't know of any pilots who drive their airplanes with a warning like that. Fact is the industry and media report air[lane problems but I've never seen an article about a car with bad brakes or worse. You seem to be looking for the worst in an imperfect world.

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Mark Lansdell منذ 8 سنوات 1

Strange this was supposed to be a response to BTWeston. FA move the comment way down here.

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30west منذ 8 سنوات 1

It's the display protocol that FA uses and after thinking about it makes sense to me. The line extender to comments helps track the replies to their intended source. The indented replies are subsets of other replies. I hope that makes sense and not a simplistic explanation of my understanding.

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Mark Lansdell منذ 8 سنوات 1

Thanks for responding. Your simple is my complex. I remain on the trailing edge of technology.

My comment was a response to the one made by BTweston,at the beginning of the long, indented list about 10 comments up from here. Mine was placed there, where I placed it but then moved after some hours to it's current residence.

I don't mean this as a complaint but rather an attempt to understand the "protocall" as you call it

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preacher1 منذ 8 سنوات 0

It was and it was in place at one time. I saw it. The lines go up there. The have started doing that rather than leaving them in place.

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preacher1 منذ 8 سنوات 0

And out of that million or so parts, there are not that many that can be MEL' or minimum equipment list. In other words, your check engine light is on for a reason. In a plane, an warning or indicator has to be checked out. Some can be deferred, some not.

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btweston منذ 8 سنوات -6

This is becoming kind of a thing with Southwest over these last few years, no?

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Brian Bishop منذ 8 سنوات 3

No.

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