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An Alaska Airlines flight was forced to return to Seattle after a worker was trapped in the cargo hold. (jansaviation.com) المزيد...

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upchucked
C. WESLEY GRADY 11
What? They don't have a trap door leading down to the lower level? But, but, but I saw it in the movie!! no don't tell me, I won't believe you, after all, I saw it on TV and TV never lies.... and besides how would they ever be able to sneak a Navy Seal on board a flying aircraft if there weren't trap doors and secret passages and stuff.
paultrubits
paul trubits 11
That is where the snakes are.
Braniff77
Braniff77 2
I saved a guy once in a similar situation. Luckily we were still at the gate when I heard banging under my seat. Called the flight attendant and she ran to the front of the plane. A couple of minutes later i saw them open the cargo hatch and the guy jumped out. He was not a happy camper.
mduell
Mark Duell 2
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ASA448/history/20150413/2125Z/KSEA/KLAX
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
Does the contract allow afternoon naps? Probably never happen on SWA- they're not on the ground long enough to doze off.
MH370
MH370 1
http://avherald.com/h?article=484b8d67&opt=0
jbqwik
jbqwik 1
'..loading luggage is the sleepiest job in the world <yawn>'
distar97
Dennis Harper 1
I sleep fine at home but never could as a pax. I guess some people have an on/off sleep switch.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 1
My son slept the night through at the Port Hueneme Naval Base, boarded a plane in the morning, laid on the floor with his feet on a milk crate, and woke up in Greece. The kid from the time he was born would fall asleep the minute he was in a moving vehicle. A great talent I envied.
devsfan
ken young 1
I can sleep on an aircraft with ease.
It's why I always get a window seat.
DarrylLyons
Darryl Lyons 1
As an X "rampee" I might propose one senario. The last of the bags have been loaded and his partner leaves to check if there are any more bags to be loaded. The "rampee" remains in the cargo hold and waits. While he is there an unsuspecting mail bag ends up under his head and he doses off. This doesn't sound like gross negligence. This sounds like a tired employee. I'm sure glad the gate agents and stews don't get tired!
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
If I had been in there... There would have been plenty of noise before the plane left the gate.... I remember once a long time ago working (maintenance) in the hell hole APU running so I had my headphones on... A ramper closed the door and removed ther ladder.... With head phones on I did not notice anything until the plane started pushing back.... Thinking fast, I started disconnecting cannon plugs giving all sorts of ISSUES in the cockpit including an APU Auto Shutdown... Once they pulled the plane back to the gate a mechanic opened the door and when he saw me me he asked what was going on... I was PO'd.... The entire time I had the logbook and the crew did not miss it....

If you are in a hold... There are ways to get someones attention...
preacher1
preacher1 1
Well, as has been noted, he wasn't fired but he is banned from working Alaska flights.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 0
I can't name one single working person I know or have worked with who hasn't been a "tired employee" at one time or another. Probably lots of times. That doesn't give license to catching a few zzzz's while on the job. One works through it and rests off the clock. The example posted here speaks to the ethics of the individual.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
Very much so... And if you have downtime and boss is ok with it... Take a snooze... But not on a live flight... Geez...
TWA55
TWA55 1
No excuse for this ramp rat.
Leo12656
Leonardo Lage 1
Laughing, having heard that term in awhile. Brings back memories.
Tiggerflute
Tiggerflute 1
Maybe he has narcolepsy.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Well, this Headline says trapped. All the media says he was asleep. Trapped sounds better
fireftr
Dale Ballok 1
Problem is, if a ramper (baggage handler) doesn't do his job, people could get killed. Unlike other jobs, where safety is not so important..."sorry I got your burger order wrong"
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
I am not sure that I agree here... The bags are stored in the bin that is calculated by someone else and usually by computer... The Bag snasger/ramper simply stores them on the plane. As long as they do not damage something that is airworthy in nature, IE Cargo Door itself and not tell anyone then three is not much else they can do that affects safety. Many times it is a different crew that pushes back, and unless they push into another plan (and that has happened, or like one that I witnessed the ramper parking the plane directed the main gear over the fueling cover and it broke through and the wing almost touched the ground.... Good reason to leave you seat belt buckled until the plane is stopped.
fireftr
Dale Ballok 3
Sparkie: I'm speaking from experience. I worked on the ramp for 15 years. Granted, the least of many duties is loading/unloading bags, but there is always the chance of causing damage while doing this. Cargo, mail, and other materials are transported besides bags. Try manuevering a 600 lb piece of equipment on a pallet that just barely cleares the doorway in Jan with vertical snow blowing in your face! You have no idea of what a ramper does. Try manuevering a belt loader up to the plane in the previous conditions on glare ice!

The load is made up by the load planner - what if an irresponsible baggage handler deviates from that and the load is off balance?
What if the ramper causes damage while unloading and he doesn't report it, or its not detected? You don't want to be on a plane whose cargo door Isn't completely closed and locked.
I don't know how other ramp crews operate, but the crew pushing the plane is the same one that loaded it, unless that crew had a change in assignments.

My point here is: you can not comprehend what responsibilities the ramp personnel have and are carrying out during a turn by looking out the a/c window, or even observing while at the gate.
Unfortunately, the "baggage handler" moniker is grossly misunderstood by the general public.

It takes a competent, knowledgeable, hard working individual to be a good ramper. Seems like all this guy with AA is concerned with is his paycheck.
spankmaster5
spud man 2
Thank you Sparkie. I have 24 years as a station agent and supervisor on the ramp. We are called ramp rats, bag smashers and all sorts of things. In reality we were directly responsible for the safety of these aircraft, their load plans and our personnel while they are on the ground.As a mainline Employee we had recurrent training and a pride in aircraft familiarization few could match. Few people outside of our industry and some in gave us the respect we deserved. Now we have a new breed, born from out sourcing. Farming out the work to the cheapest bidder supplying body's to "handle" baggage has opened it all up to equipment damage, pilferage, personnel injuries and dangerously indifferent attitudes. These people have no pride in their job or even a professional appearance. It drives me mad to look out the window and see what appears to be the Crips and Bloods butts hanging out while they littering the neighborhood with bags. End Rant.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 1
Now, you're talking about someone such as a ramp agent who is responsible for considerably more than just loading bags. You even reference the "irresponsible baggage handler" which is the same type I've been referring to if they are barely capable of doing such a simple task.

The analogy would be the store manager at McDonald's who is responsible for everyone and everything from employees to supply to payroll and other expenses, etc.
preacher1
preacher1 1
I got to agree there. The ramp agent is pretty much in charge of all that goes on on the ground.

Ken, on another note: Did they close Randolph AFP down there by San Antonio?
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 1
Yep, it's still there. They now call all three (Randolph, Lackland & Fort Sam Houston), "Joint Base San Antonio". Never mind all three are a good distance apart.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Does it have it's own ICAO code? I was looking here on FA and all I saw was Lackland taking over Kelly.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 1
preacher1
preacher1 1
preacher1
preacher1 1
What town or suburb does it show up in? I can't find anything on it browsing in FA's new sooper doper airport guide. It says University City but nothing listed in the guide for that. It definitely comes up under the code but nothing in the guide to browse and find.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
FA's list for San Antonio had KRND and KSKF (Lackland- Kelly Field Annex). Ft Sam doesn't show up.
preacher1
preacher1 1
I just missed it I guess. I saw that Ft Sam didn't show, tks, Wayne
preacher1
preacher1 1
Well, I hate to sound like a broke record but I just went back and looked. My list shows 9 airports for San Antonio and KRND ain't there. I'll contact support after while.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 1
This shows the AFBs. Sam Houston is about halfway between them or about 160º from KSAT.

http://skyvector.com/?ll=29.453913239504853,-98.40088524271016&chart=32&zoom=1&plan=A.K4.KRND:A.K4.KSKF
preacher1
preacher1 1
Tks, yeah, I know where they all at, having spent some time down there in years past. I'm just to lazy to dig my flight bag out of the closet or unplug my tablet to call it up. LOL. I guess they just missed it on th browse list. I was just curious, it setting out there all by it's lonesome if it was under another town listing since the code brings it up fine
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 1
I'm not seeing the logic in your statement unless baggage was loaded so poorly to cause a balance issue. Even so, the trim should be able to compensate unless there was also poorly done maintenance as was the case in a commuter accident.
preacher1
preacher1 1
I kinda wondered about that myself. If a door left undone, it would light up in the cockpit.
fireftr
Dale Ballok 1
FYI, a ramp agent not only loads bags, but is responsible for the aircraft while it is parked at the gate. The rampers are in charge of the a/c until turned over to the crew after the tow bar is disconnected. Ever look beneath a plane? Didn't think so. Guess what would happen if the "baggage handler" didn't secure the bin door. Or what if he caused damage to the landing gear, or dented the doorway with the belt loader, etc, etc.!
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
I cannot really say that the rampers are in charge... The Gate agent is actually in charge of the plane until the captain is on board... As far as the gear goes, other than chocking they should not be near it, and there has been lots of bet loader damage over the years... We have damage files full of rampers and belt loaders... They hit wing tips, engines, and more.
fireftr
Dale Ballok 1
Where do you get your information from?
preacher1
preacher1 1
Well, he is a 30 year vet of mx. You obviously were a handler and ramp worker in the past but have not had any recent exposure as airlines have tried to wring out every penny of extra cost.
fireftr
Dale Ballok 1
Retired last year...just tired of hearing about what people "think", and I'm trying to tell them what I "know".

Everybody can just believe whatever they want! I'm out.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Well, that is the nice part about this country; we can agree to disagree. You know what you did and we all know what we see and are around and have to deal with. May be we were in different venues. I just know that an area that has gone to hell in a handbasket in the last year or 2. Maybe you got out just in time.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
As a retired civil service, I know the common complaints about this, that, and the other. What I 'know' is that there were enough of us with a hobby of doing a good job to offset those who were just wasting oxygen. Don't expect the analogy to carry over to ramp work.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Before I started flying, I had the bright idea that I would work for the railroad. Got myself hired on down in Little Rock and got assigned into the rate dept. Being young and full of pis and vinegar, I finished my work early one evening and went to the senior next to me to see what I could learn about his. He let me know right quick that them rate books was his as was that job and for me to get my butt back to my chair and just sit there. Developed my bad taste for unions right there.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 1
I bet he was also damn near worthless for ever being promoted to something higher.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 2
The ole' peter principle.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 1
Yep! Laurence Peter claimed to write that book as satire but man, he had to know how factually true it was!
preacher1
preacher1 2
Typical Union dog. He had his job. You can't fire me. I'll do just enough to get by.

In answer to your question, besides being worthless to promote:
1. If somebody did get a promotion that he thought he should have, he'd file a grievance or, #2. Leave me the hell alone til I retire.

We have all seen that type, no incentive to do anything but draw a paycheck. Hell, we blew a main on landing one day and I limped on over to the FBO. Didn't do that much but I helped the changer a little. I wasn't too good to get my hands or uniform dirty. A union guy would have sat there and told mx to handle it, regardless of where you were. I just ain't built like that. Damn, don't let me start on unions.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 1
Take it from someone from the Labor Relations world, I hear ya'.
preacher1
preacher1 2
Plenty of government jobs around but not many, if any, government companies. Most I know of are private held, and if they don't make a profit, you don't work. A lot of union folk don't seem to understand that the company don't owe them a living. That's all I'll say or I'll be here all night.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
We could spend all day playing 'see you and raise you one'. Was drafted into supervision, and my second happiest day on the job was when I returned to rank-and-file.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
If the Ramper is in charge, what authority do they have over the plane.... They are told where to load the bags, when to load the bags, where to park the plane, when the a/c needs services such as Ground Power, or Ground Air. They are told when to push the plane... The Ramper does not have down stream authority....
fireftr
Dale Ballok 1
Ok, so you're a maint. controller. You see all the damage reports, but are not down on the ramp experiencing it.
The a/c is in the hands of the ramp crew until the tow bar is disconnected and the plane is under its "own" power moving forward.
The flight crew has no idea what's going on at the ramp level while being pushed backwards. If there is an emergency, the plane will be brought back to the gate attached to the pushback.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
I have spent 24 years working the ramps as a Line Mechanic and 6 years working as a maintenance controller. I agree the ramp crew has control of the aircraft until the tow bar is disconnected... However, that does not mean that they are in charge... At many airports the person in charge at that point is the guy in the tower giving permission for push back.... A good example is for example... When that plane is broke it is MY airplane until I give it back... At that point in time, I have control over what is to be done, if it is to be moved, I have it moved, either by crew of rampers, if it needs a mechanic I send one out and he works under my direction... Many times until I release the plane, I am telling the crew what to do.. When I am satisfied the plane is good to go then I release it back to Dispatch, who then releases it back to the crew or ground operations. Ground Operations then advises what they need the rampers to do... I know the rampers do a lot of hard work and many times get a bad rap... and many times deserve it... Most of the time the public sees the black eye of the rampers from lost luggage that occasionally gets lost, or whey they drive a vehicle into a plane and preforms damage.... I had one of my birds once to be hit by a fuel truck backing up.... He hit the plane (CRJ 200) so hard that the Winglet penetrated the FULL fuel truck, and both the Main and Nose wheels were launched off the ground and moved the a/c 15 feet. On the video, shows the fueler backing up over 100 feet in a straight line and said he never saw the plane... It bent the wing and the plane was a total loss.

Rampers many times get a bad rap, but many times they bring it on themselves.. Like the guy here that fell asleep in the cargo bin... Or like one other ramper that I saw while flying to work on another road trip.... He was throwing (and I do mean throwing) backs on the belt as hard as he good... He was also not in proper uniform wearing a T-Shirt that read (and not joking) "Better No Job Than A Blow Job" and he was wearing it in public view.... If I saw it from sitting on the plane, so did others.... I did file a company comment...
preacher1
preacher1 1
Dale: my curiosity. You talk about mx control and you talk about the flight crew and about all that is going on under the wing. More than 1 guy doing all that has to be done. Apparently you worked thru several positions to retirement, which incidentally, I think is grand, retirement I'm speaking of. Not asking in a smart aleck manner here, but what did you finish out doing?
fireftr
Dale Ballok 1
Was just commenting on Sparkie's statement about being an a/c maint. controller.
I worked on the ramp. Everything I learned about the airline industry I picked up from working on and around planes.
It was rough in the winter, but a very rewarding job, getting the passengers and their bags to their destination safely and on time.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
Working as an A/C Maintenance Controller for the past 5 years, I get call all the time... At work we have 2 books of specific damage that is on the planes much of it caused by rampers.. A few examples.

Upon investigation for cargo door damage, found damage to be beyond damage of original REO, damage after blending is 1.7" wide by 2.25" long by .008" Deep.

External Power Receptical Is cracked and Seperatated. Socket Only, No Structural Damage. (Ramper drove off power cart while still attached to a/c.

DENT ON #1 ENGINE COWL - Caused by Belt Loader (Guess who was driving)

Dent on Rt Engine 6 to 9" from back of cowling approx 6 oclock position

CARGO DOOR DEFLECTOR SEAL DAMAGE (Belt Loader)

That is 5 of thousands of reports that are found on a regular basis...
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 1
Sorry, not buying it. It does not take super intelligence to follow basic procedures for securing doors, power connections, etc.

Besides, I rather doubt the same ones loading bags are the same ones as those coupling a tow bar and driving tugs.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
At some stations they do, and at other stations they have specific push crews... Statistically stations that have rampers pushing planes are stations that receive more damage to a/c.
fireftr
Dale Ballok 1
You rather "doubt " it??? AGAIN- I worked on the ramp! If anyone posting here has been "under the wing", you can appreciate what I've said and the information I've given. Otherwise, everything else is just conjecture.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
That is really station specific... Some do, so do not.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 1
Oh leave him alone you guys - everyone needs to feel important! lol
preacher1
preacher1 1
LOL. That popoff aside, we need the guys on the ground. Whether it's the left seat or a ramp rate, it takes them all to get one in the air.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 1
There you go again, injecting that level-headed bit. But yeah, lol, I'm confident we all agree with you. It's just that a few don't agree with Dale's job description. However, at the end of the day, it takes a village, doesn't it.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 1
But the idiot took a nap and got a free ride... on both the airline and their employer.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
not to mention his 15 minutes of fame
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
One thing I have to say about this guy... He can fall asleep anywhere... I have spent a lot of time in the hold of a 737 working and it is not any place I would want to lay down, much less sleep.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 1
That's still inside the pressure vessel but I wonder how much heat he'd have as well as oxygen concentration since there's not likely bleed air ducted down there.
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
That cargo are has heat and O2.. Would not had been a probel... He was in the forward compartment... LOL.. The aft is pressurized, but not heated.

I would have loved to have seen the face of the person that opened the cargo hold at the next destination if they had not returned... LOL :)
stevooz
steve rogers 1
my question is : how in hell does someone fall asleep in a cargo hold ? and is this the guy you want working anywhere around your next flight ? hemmm don't think so .
preacher1
preacher1 2
Idk about the working part but I got a son that could literally fall asleep anywhere.
fedexman2
Eric Schmaltz 2
Maybe it's because he'd been at work since 5:00AM loading and unloading heavy baggage and was close to finishing his shift and had done the same thing the day before and the day before that and the day before that....But that's just a guess.
watkinssusan
mary susan watkins 1
eric..obviously you are not familiar with the rampers (as we called them),,they have a lot of "down time" between flights as they are assigned to load or unload only certain gates of of aircraft..they are far form "overworked" enough to take a nap in the cargo hold..it is his job as a cargo baggage handler to fo do the same job on a daily basis,just as it the gate agents,and the flight attendants and the others workng to get a flight out..no sympathy here as I worked with these guys!besides all that.tjhey are paid quite well for that job,whether on a contract basis (as this man was) or working for the airline itself..
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 1
Sorry to disagree Mary - the airline rampers are paid shamefully low wages.
watkinssusan
mary susan watkins 1
awaalum..I respect your right to disagree,but I am speaking from my previous experience with ramp personnel, and they make considerably more than minimum wage plus time and a half and doubletime if they work for a carrier..the as workers, if they are contract,may not...
preacher1
preacher1 1
Don't know how long it has been since you worked that job, but with all ramp service and other jobs such as that, Airlines have taken them all to contract and all I can say is that it's a good thing there is a minimum wage. They are either at that or not much more.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 1
How much do they need to be paid?

I don't see a lot of difference between that task and one requiring, "Would you like fries with that?"
fireftr
Dale Ballok 1
I don't get it... he was "banned"? Does his company work other airlines too? Are they just passing him on to other airlines? If you have an employee that screws up enough, he should be fired. Somebody'll take his job.
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 1
Many don't want to work. They don't want to get themselves educated to be worth more and don't want to work for what they're worth. So, no... they may not easily fill the job.

I've been offering a job for high school students. No experience required but they'll become well educated while here for ten bucks an hour starting. I got one response and he was fired from a fast food joint for not showing up to work.

The guy who takes care of my sister's lawn in Scottsdale came to the US ten years ago and has since earned his citizenship. He has a tough time finding employees to mow and trim grass. No one wants to work for a living... at least not for what they're worth with no marketable experience.
preacher1
preacher1 1
I figure that most of those contractors work for several, if not all the airlines at a station. The companies could be under contract to the airport itself and just paid for as used, like landing fees and such. In answer to your question, yes, he'll just work other lights, for awhile til it's all forgot and then happens again. When I first retired in 09 and had the truckline, every now and then a driver would have a bad day, get into it with somebody, and a traffic manager would call up or send and Email, saying don't ever send that guy back to my place, but most of them had no way to track it. You kept the guy out a month or 2 but they would invariably get back in there and all would be OK.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 1
I'm only guessing, but it's probably like other "temp" jobs, or "contract workers". You're given an assignment where to work. When that's finished they give you a new assignment. He apparently was just given a new assignment. But like I said, I'm only hazarding a guess. As far as him not being terminated, there are likely circumstances surrounding the incident that haven't surfaced.
Atwater
Norman Atwater 1
Heard he brags on his face book page how he gets away sleeping on the job But i can not believe the news last night said he is back on the job . He must have BSed some one to keep his job.
Atwater
Norman Atwater 1
I heard he was bragging on his Facebook page how he sleeps on the job. And i heard last night on the news he is back on the job. He must have BSed some on to keep his job
rhn
Robert Newmark 1
If the flight departed in the morning and the flight from San Francisco to LAX is under 2 hours and they declared an emergency why did it take until 3PM for the flight to land?
preacher1
preacher1 1
He was a contract ramp rate. CBS says he is back on the job but he is banned from working any Alaskan Airlines Flights.They also managed to get hold of a 911 call he made. Don't know how high they were but the cell phone did work.
watkinssusan
mary susan watkins 1
I have heard the man was not fired..i find this unbelieveable..i worked as an agent at the gate for many years for a large carrier,and although the guys might on occasion sleep in the breakroom, i never heard of one getting locked in a cargo hold..i did hear that the man was with a contracted baggage company,,but he still should have been fired..period..the guys who work for an airline usually go through their union if there is a work related issue..and this one is..this guy should be fired for his laziness and his stupidity..
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 1
I read still employed, but never permitted back with Alaska.
OldGeezer
Thomas Jacobson 1
Caught napping...
fireftr
Dale Ballok 1
Doesn't matter how much $$$ this guy was making! He inconvenienced all the customers on board and screwed up the flight schedule for the day...should have been fired, not banned.
As an ex-ramper for United, er Continental, this behavior would never be tolerated. He was alone in the bin, as this was a 737-900 which has an automatic belt loading system that requires only one person to load.
Another black eye for Alaska Airlines and shame on the crew he was working with, for not realizing he was missing. Apparently they have no accountability.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 1
Another black eye? According to a recent poll, Alaska's among the top 3 U.S. airlines for Customer Service in 2014.
fireftr
Dale Ballok 1
Sorry about the airline comment. You're right, they do have a good rep. Was thinking of another one.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Actually he was not an Alaska employee. Handlers are all contract. Crew chief did not see him and tried to call his cell phone. Got no answer and assumed he had already bailed to the house. I guess that is as far as accountability went. He was not fired but was banned from working Alaska flights. Help hard to find is probably why he wasn't fired, and after a bit, it'll all be forgot about and he'll work any flight up there at SEA, including Alaska.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 1
Granted it's been nearly 10 years since I left, but back then, unless things have changed, rampers at America West were airline employees. (And since I am now in Seattle and fly out of Seatac, I'll be certain to knock on the floor prior to pushback from now on.)
preacher1
preacher1 1
It's changed everywhere. I'm not sure if there is a major out there that has ramp & ground folks as employees anymore. They are pretty much all contract now, i.e. the baggage fiasco at DEN a month or 2 back when they changed contractors. And pretty much all low bid with a short term.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 1
Times they'sa changin'. Thx preacher.
preacher1
preacher1 2
10-4, I'm outa here. We had the grandkids last night. I'm gonna take me a nap. LOL
devsfan
ken young 1
short career
sgbelverta
sharon bias 1
Probably will be looking for a new job shortly.
joelwiley
joel wiley 2
Maybe demonstrator for the Sleep Train?
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 0
(Duplicate Squawk Submitted)

Alaska Airlines Ramp Agent Found in Cargo Hold

A cargo employee of Alaska Airlines fell asleep in the cargo hold and didn't wake up until after the plane took off from Seatac Airport in Seattle.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/alaska-airlines-ramp-agent-found-cargo-hold-banging/story?id=30294041
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 1
Mea culpa everyone. When I submitted the post, all the possible "duplicates" shown didn't include this one. I wouldn't post a duplicate knowingly.
joelwiley
joel wiley 2
The ways of FA with dups is a mystery. Timing can be critical too. 8-)
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 3
I've kind of given up posting anything since someone else usually gets to it.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 1
Well, I pretty much figured I'd get here first since I'm in Seattle and heard it on the local news. But perhaps you're right - leave posting to others. I'm not sure why people down vote a duplicate anyways - clearly they can't always be avoided.
bobhirst
Robert Hirst 0
(Duplicate Squawk Submitted)

Baggage Handler Falls Asleep, Wakes Up...

Alaska Airlines says a L.A.-bound plane returned to Seattle shortly after takeoff, when the pilot realized that an airport worker was inside.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/04/14/baggage-handler-snoozing-in-cargo-hold-wakes-up-in-a-panic-in-the-air/
andrewstagg
Andrew Stagg -2
(Duplicate Squawk Submitted)

AS 448 Returns to SEA After Ramp Worker Fell Asleep in Cargo Hold

Immediately after takeoff, the pilot of Alaska Airlines flight 448, bound for Los Angeles, reported hearing banging from beneath the aircraft.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/screaming-heard-cargo-area-plane-seatac-aircraft-d/nkshk/
OldGeezer
Thomas Jacobson -1
(Duplicate Squawk Submitted)

Ramp worker causes flight to divert

A ramp worker was inside the front cargo hold as the jet departed for KSEA for KLAX...

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Sea-Tac-Airport-worker-trapped-inside-Alaska-Air-cargo-bin-as-plane-takes-off-299619111.html
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Flight makes emergency landing in Seattle area after worker locked in cargo

SEATTLE (Reuters) - A Los Angeles-bound Alaska Airlines flight made an emergency landing at a Seattle-area airport on Monday afternoon after it took off with a worker trapped in a cargo area under the cabin, the U.S. carrier said.

http://news.yahoo.com/flight-makes-emergency-landing-seattle-area-worker-locked-231135958.html

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