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USAF Website Suggests Saudi Arabia Deal

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Negotiations over the deal have dragged on for more than a year. The US government notified Congress in October last year that the Saudis had requested a possible $30 billion F-15 order. It would include 84 new F-15SAs with active electronically scanned array (AESA) radars and AESA installations on the Saudi air force's 70 F-15SAs. (www.flightglobal.com) المزيد...

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preacher1
preacher1 0
I thought they were going upgrades and hold out for the F35??????????
dbrooks84
David Brooks 0
Glad to see this deal going through. Will keep the F-15 line going and a lot of people employed.
wxmeddler
wxmeddler 0
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16358068
AviatorMom
Barbara Gould 0
I can't believe we are selling these to them! Have we forgotten that the
terrorists, were Saudi's who plowed into the WTC? Unbelieveable, how
money makes our memory fail.
dbrooks84
David Brooks 0
Dealing with the Saudi's, in a way, is a a knife with two edges. Yes, some of the key terrorists have come from Saudi Arabia. And from Egypt, Yemen, Syria, etal. The Saudi's have at least, militarily, aligned them selves with our positions. The Saudi's have bought large amounts of military equipment from the US. Since the Saudi's are going to buy military equipment, I think it helps us if they buy from the USA rather than somewhere else (like Europe, Russia, China, etc.). We get some of our oil money back.
captainjman
Jason Feldman 0
The Saudi's speak one thing and secretively do another - just as much as the "knife with two edges" comment above. The simple fact is that there are a lot of unanswered questions, and a lot of back room deals, and once again America is for sale to the highest bidder - How awful. We don't make toasters, or refrigerators, or microwaves, TV's, .... shirts, pants, laser pointers, shoes... so we justify the sale of some of the most technologically advanced weapons ever created because of a catch phrase "its good for the economy?" Hell, why not make some extra money and sell them access to our internal files, they have all the oil money necessary - Im sure they will give us a good deal.

No one here cares that the perpetrators got their training in the USA, the fact is that they came from Saudi Arabia and unless I missed it, were there any shock and awe missions there to rid that country of their terrorist cells? No, bush ran down to tell the sheiks that as long as the flow of oil keeps coming we will focus our attention on other targets. Yeah, lets sell these guys more weapons, I love this idea! ~ in case our retarded intelligence agencies cant use common sense when they read this, that was sarcasm!
dbrooks84
David Brooks 0
My comments were meant to be cynical. As for the attackers (the hijackers of the planes) were led by Mohamed Atta, an Egyptian national. Fifteen of the men were from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates, one (Atta) from Egypt, and one from Lebanon.

For to often, our vision becomes 20/20 after the events. I think people did care about the fact where they got some of their flying skills at - USA. Warnings went unheeded but hope now days, in something similar is tried, we can find out early and react. There has been some improvements in that area over the past 5 years or so.
preacher1
preacher1 0
That is true BUT they took their flight training in the U.S., and these are for the Saudi military which already has them anyway.
bishops90
Brian Bishop 0
"The military hardware deal comes at a time when Washington is working to counter the influence of the Saudis' bitter regional rival, Iran"

Pretty much says it all. I think they're all scared Sh*itless of Iran over there! (except Israel of course)
mmccook
Michael McCook 0
The Saudi government and military are anti-terrorism. They fight that battle every day. They already have the third largest fleet of F-15's in the world. They fly western made aircraft: British Tornado's, Eurofighter's, F-5's, C-130's...etc. They fought with the Coalition in the first gulf war. This deal is good for us and good for them. It probably also helps keep oil prices down. Plus, they have no love for Iran, so they can be a strategic forward operating base, if needed.
caphenning
Henning Heinemann 0
Why not just sell KSA and Israel all the weapons they want and let them take care of Iran while we deal with here? Personally I'm all for driving every piece of equipment to Tel Aviv and having the soldiers trade keys for El Al flights home. Wish em good luck.
genethemarine
Gene spanos 0
Looks like it's a done deal.
captainjman
Jason Feldman 0
It's thinking like that which caused us to give weapons to Afghanistan rebels because our enemies enemy is our friend right?

How well did that work for us in the long run.

Drilling in the gulf of Mexico will help keep cost of oil too and we don't need to arm future problem countries.

And while smart people told me years ago how stupid I was for not liking who we get in bed with - who was right in the long run? Who was the real idiot after all.

Now I hear the same argument by people who claim to be smarter again.

Whats that saying about doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome - or was Einstein an idiot too? Maybe Kant was crazy. Maybe all the wisdom doesn't matter when you choose to look the other way because of monetary gain?
BoeingFan59
Troy Raiteri 0
And let the Saudi comments begin!
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 0
The middle east countries are friends to no one else in the world. Their friendship is directly related to their need at the time. Their hatred of the West is and always was apparant.
AviatorMom
Barbara Gould 0
Happy, Healthy Peace-filled New Year everyone. Stay safe up there! :-)
SteveDietrich
Steve Dietrich 0
There's no doubt that a stronger Saudi Arabia is good for us and good for the region.

Unfortunately there are other potential foreign sales of US military equipment and aircraft to friends that are on hold. These represent tens if not hundreds of thousands of jobs for US workers both in the initial production and in the long term support for the aircraft.
AviatorMom
Barbara Gould 0
The only way these manufacturers of U.S. Military equipment, will benefit from any new contracts is
when the DOD allows them to be sold, and that doess not mean the customers who purchase them, will also
be given "support" unless that, as well, is approved by the DOD. It's not as simple as it sounds,
and the ITAR controls who, we are allowed to sell to, and who we are allowed to provide "support" to, and it all requires Licensing, from the DOD. Domestic sales are easy, but Exporting to foreign clients/governments requires due diligence lest these weapons fall into the wrong hands.
Aircraft parts are one of the most difficult items to Export, so we shouldn't support sales of any restricted item, just because it would produce jobs...Our safety depends on discretion and knowing the end user of the products and ensuring that they are not on the Table of Denied Persons list....
Pray for Peace in 2012, and we won't need to build or sell these items to those who would use them against us.

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