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Near Midair Collisions: For Airline Passengers, Ignorance Is Bliss

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The facts behind our assumed level of safety are less than comforting. (www.flyingmag.com) المزيد...

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stevecostello
Steve Costello 4
Wow. After having read this article, along with the mess that was the USA Today article several weeks ago, there seems to be an awful lot of misinformation going around. I can't believe this was published in Flying, of all places, especially after the stink they rightfully put up about the USA Today garbage.

What a crock of crap this is. Clickbait sensationalism at its worst.
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
Doh... Not a good article.
stevecostello
Steve Costello 2
Interesting. The article has been removed from Flying Magazine's website. I'd prefer that they actually offer a written retraction instead of just deleting the article.
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
It is saying Access Denied... It could mean that they have pulled it, but it also could mean that they are having issues with their web server as well.
Av8nut
Michael Fuquay 3
That's right. Forget flight plans, STARs and SIDs. We'll get there by "dumb luck". Sheesh, what a dumb article.
grinch59
Gene Nowak -8
I see from your registration you do not show any flying credentials. Then obviously you do not know what you are talking about.
flyingj481
flyingj481 5
So, as a licensed pilot, are you agreeing with the article that you haven't had a mid-air collision yet because of dumb luck? I would tend to agree with Michael, and add to it that it is also due to the training that all pilots should receive to look and listen for other traffic.

I'm surprised that Flying mag would publish such an article. I guess their sales are based on "dumb luck" too.
Av8nut
Michael Fuquay 4
Ok, fair enough, go ahead and attack my credentials. If indeed, that's all you have to add to this discussion.

However, my comment was to make mention that, while I do not sit in the pointy end, I do recognize the value of proper procedures and regulations in place for safe aviation.

Unless, you're a crop-duster Gene, there are tight tolerances that must be followed in the skies. That doesn't mean that aviation could be all-automated (pilotless) with robots. There will always be the need for pilots. But to insinuate that the success of aviation can be attributed to "dumb luck" is foolish.
stevecostello
Steve Costello 4
Or, more than likely, Michael simply may not have entered those credentials in. No reason to attack the guy and assume he has no experience. For all you know, he might be a 40,000 hour pilot.
grinch59
Gene Nowak 0
Probably not because the 3 of you have apparently not had the experience of flying IFR or VFR and being confronted with a small Cessna 1/2 mile off your wing even though you had been advised of the traffic. Sometimes with the haze and clouds it is very difficult to pick out a small aircraft until you are almost on top of it. This is where the "dumb luck" comes in!
flyingj481
flyingj481 2
Wow, good to see we have a troll. OK Mr. Pvt/IFR pilot. Since we are on a rampage, let's assume that no one could possible know more than you.

If dumb luck is ever a planned part of your flying, then you should just stay on the ground. Have we, the royal we as pilots, all had situations where dumb luck played a part of the positive outcome of a flight? Yes. Often? Not even close. In my thousands of hours of flying I can think of maybe two situations where I was lucky and was happy nothing came of it. However, 99.999% of flying is done with deliberate planning, yes even the VFR flying without flight plans, and goes off without a hitch as a result. This is true for the busiest GA airports (KVNY, KAPA) to the slowest airport with 2 operations a day.

High visibility/low visibility, VRF/IFR, it shouldn't matter. Safety is about planning and training, which there is no lack of in aviation, especially commercial aviation.

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