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Five decades ago, Boeing's new 727 jet also had a terrible start

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As Boeing Co and global airlines work to restore public confidence in the 737 MAX after two deadly crashes, they will have a play book they can use. This is not the first time that Boeing has faced a crisis after launching a new plane with innovative technology. In 1965, three Boeing 727-100 passenger jets crashed in less than three months in the United States while coming into land, killing a total of 131 people. Like the 737 MAX, the three-engined 727 was billed as one of the most advanced… (finance.yahoo.com) المزيد...

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bbabis
Bill Babis 7
Outside of having Boeing in the name there is nothing in common with the 727 and 737max issues. The 727 was an entirely new way to fly the basic airplane and operate systems. The Max is simply a malfunction with a system and lack of training and basic flying skills are killing people.
KobeHunte
Kobe Hunte 2
two different generations, two different problems.. Well explained Bill.
patpylot
patrick baker 2
boeing had a informal learning curve on the 727 that was fully realized, thus providing some better guidance on how to fly and maintain the aircraft. Specifically- the sink rate was too generous, and was the cause of the salt lake city/united airlines crash. THe traveling public did not want to hear of such a learning curve than and certainly not now. The new 737max has "flown" in computer simulations for thousands of hours, and yet the defect that resulted in two crashes/nearly 400 lives, did not appear.
Highflyer1950
Highflyer1950 4
However, runaway elevator trim has been taught on the 737 since it’s inception?
KobeHunte
Kobe Hunte 2
Boeing learned as they went
stratofan
stratofan 2
I posted a similar comment about the same event a few days ago. True, many pilots were transitioning from older airliners like the DC-3, and surprise! you couldn't fly by the seat of your pants so to speak. Far to many in the mainstream media have become aviation experts overnight, when they know about as much about flying as the dark side of the moon. Let the investigation go forward and not speculate too soon.
patpylot
patrick baker 1
airlines will shrug this latest bad news from boeing because they know boeing will fix it and then the airlines will pony up to buy lots more 737max's. That is exactly what happened with the 727 years ago, the aircraft was revealed to be a winner, flew for years, most every airline home and abroad had them, loved them and few problems showed up later on. New technology rushed into production above the capacity of many pilots to operate safely without extensive retraining- that's the 737max. Three-holer was a far simpler aircraft.
bbabis
Bill Babis 1
This really isn't new technology rushed into production above the capacity of many pilots. No matter how it happens, runaway trim, which this was, has been a memory checklist for every aircraft since the inception of electric trim systems. Interupt, disable, re-trim. The three-holer, once mastered, was a far simpler aircraft but I sincerely doubt that many crews today, particularly third world ones, could safely get one from point A to point B.
Highflyer1950
Highflyer1950 1
It didn’t help that the wings were swept back the most of any airliner in that day and the dutch roll and high sink rates poised an inevitable situation if you weren’t on top of it?
linbb
linbb -1
And there was the A330,DC9 and others with problems but back then no internet trolls with nothing to do at work but troll the internet much like MH370 does.
KobeHunte
Kobe Hunte 4
you are obsessed with that guy... get a grip.

You are the one trolling most of the time. MH370 hardly ever comments, he just does things you absolutely hate, meanwhile, you comment on ever squawk there is. And 99% of the time, it is something negative.
KobeHunte
Kobe Hunte 2
btweston
btweston 5
You are freaking obsessed with that guy. Get help.
MHarryE
Michael Enzmann 1
I was making monthly trans-Atlantic round trips on A330s at the time of QF72 on which the passengers and cabin crew survived with injuries including some permanent only because when the system took control to force nose down to prevent stall came at an altitude from which pilots could disconnect the auto feature and save the plane.
yr2012
matt jensen 1
only one trolling is you
Quirkyfrog
Robert Cowling -1
And yet the 737 hasn't been immune from other 'design issues'. Boeing's design for the rudder control system was ridiculous. Trying too hard to use the same piece of equipment to do two contradictory things in the same plane. And I think they still deny it was that design that caused or contributed to the crash, yet the fact none have happened since proves the NTSB's point, it was a flawed design...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USAir_Flight_427
btweston
btweston -6
It seems like this article is trying to to suggest that we should excuse the fact that a design flaw smashed a few hundred people into the ground and just throw our hands up and shrug it off as the price of doing business.

That’s pretty warped.

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