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Televangelist Kenneth Copeland says he needs to use THREE private jets because 'demonic environment on commercial flights are not good for a preacher'

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Televangelist Kenneth Copeland has appeared in a bizarre interview where he defends his $760M fortune and using three private jets to travel the world after previously claiming he didn't want to fly commercial with 'demons'. (www.dailymail.co.uk) المزيد...

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patpylot
patrick baker 32
these commercial christians have long since bypassed serving the Lord and his creation, mankind, so listen to Copeland's derangements and you will understand why church attendence in america is in decline.
KineticRider
Randy Marco -7
Church attendance is in decline because less people are buying into mythology, except where education & science is discouraged aka the Red States!
devsfan
ken young 0
Politics?
This is NOT a political website. NO POLITICS ALLOWED.
KineticRider
Randy Marco 0
You really need to grow up, Ken.

If you don't like the thread which is about religious hucksters, of which my post was directly on point... AND YOU just posted about below... move along.

Btw, you would have done well in the Nazi SS squad.
lynx318
lynx318 2
Not a religious site either but it seems to have devolved there. Can we stick to discussing his planes or flight status.
devsfan
ken young 0
Repeating. No politics.
Done
KineticRider
Randy Marco -2
QUIT posting drivel, look at your posts you hypocrite and get some therapy!
jdriskell
James Driskell 2
Sounds like sawdust. See below.
jdriskell
James Driskell 28
I saw this loony (Copeland) interviewed on last night's news. He came across as a complete fool, leering and the female interviewer,shaking a bent finger at her. No wonder he thinks he has to fly on private aircraft. If he ever appeared on a commercial flight, someone would probably unscrew the top of his head and dump out the sawdust.
jenastreet
jena weber 5
Sawdust. Excellent description!
devsfan
ken young 2
All televangelists are shrewd business people. And they are all rip off artists
JMARTINSON
JMARTINSON 19
A Gulfstream V for 3 million?

When God makes his best and final offer, you take it.
59Captain
M. R. 1
Yeah, that was quite a score. I would’ve jump on it too lol
21voyageur
Dan Chiasson 38
Just another blood sucking leach preying on those in need of and looking for help, support, and guidance and often those that can least afford it. Generation after generation sees these types around.
devsfan
ken young 1
Many of the followers of these scheisters are NOT poor dumb and gullible. Some of them are upper middle class/wealthy and gullible
bizprop
bizprop 72
Time to start treating these “churches” as business enterprises and begin taxing them.
rwf1001
Robert Fleming 9
I thought they were. However these televangelists know how to get around paying taxes. I'm sure of that!
bizprop
bizprop 9
Churches and religious organizations are usually tax exempt.
linbb
linbb 4
Needs to stop just because they proport to be some person expounding God does not make them tax exempt as many preachers are very well off due to donations from those they sell snake oil to.
linbb
linbb 5
You mean the people who sell swamp water to people saying its life changing water...……….
outward
Jimmy Robinson 13
This is a really callous, 'misinformed', an misguided statement. I don't know if you go to church, but I suspect you don't. Churches for the most part, do not use their money to get rich, accumulate things, and do not seek profit. The ones that are true to what they should be give away a lot of the money they take in, spend money on missions, sponsor charities or other missionaries, things like that. My church is in a town of app. 30,000 people and has managed to prosper I will admit. It is also a Bible based church that has its focus on God, not money, and gives away 1/3 of its budget to missions, charities and sponsors missions, missionaries, and other smaller churches.

People like Kenneth Copeland are what give the church a bad name. He is a phony and is judgemental, materialistic, and his focus on money, not God, not to be judgemental or anything. Money driven preachers like him are easy to spot. As Matthew 7:15,16 says:

“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits."

Behold Kenneth Copeland, a ravenous wolf. Kenneth Copeland should resign and start selling use cars. He would be good at it.
siriusloon
siriusloon 15
I think the criticism was of Copeland and his ilk, not of all churches.
outward
Jimmy Robinson 12
Note, want to see how a preacher of fame should live? Take a look at the life of Billy Graham. He dedicated his entire life to God and never sought money for money's sake. He had an independent auditor consistently audit his organization's finances to make sure there was nothing improper going one and lived in a modest house in North Carolina, not a 6-million dollar mansion. He would also send out free material when one of his crusades was broadcast, never directly asking for payment or a donations. The more I think of Kenneth Copeland, the madder it makes me, and the more I wish his ministry would go the route of Jim Bakker. I o agree to a point, that ministries like his need to looked into from a financial point of view.
siriusloon
siriusloon 17
Too bad his son spends his days slurping you know who. Pops would be pissed.
kf4hoq
Michael Huggins 8
Unfortunately, Jim Bakker is back on one of the holy roller TV channels, peddling doomsday prepper meals and home lots on a doomsday ranch in Missouri.

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glenn993
Brent Glenn 0
jbsimms
James Simms 30
Preacher man talking on T.V.
Puttin' down the rock and roll
Wants me to send a donation
'Cause he's worried about my soul
He said Jesus walked on the water
And I know that it's true
But sometimes I think that preacherman
Would like to do a little walking too
cheshire
Cal Keegan 18
These words of the American poet-philosopher Charlie Daniels strike as true today as they did when he wrote them decades ago.
rwf1001
Robert Fleming 5
watkinssusan
mary susan watkins 1
thank you james..great analogy here..i had seen this interview with copeland a long time ago, and recently it was rebroadcast..i suppose this might be called an "aviation related" article,because it does mention various aircraft purchased by mr Copeland,to avoid all of those "demons" you find on commercial planes..!
msongy
msongy 14
In the famous words of Hank Williams, Jr., "Send your money to the Lord......but use their address"!
rwf1001
Robert Fleming 18
ARE YOU KIDDING ME KEN COPELAND? You know something? Growing up in the 80s my mom and I listened to Kenneth Copeland's music, and even watched his TV preaching. I listened to him, even followed along with him talking about passages in the Bible. I don't know ANYWHERE IN THE BIBLE where it says it's OK FOR PREACHES TO OWN 3 JETS (probably paid for by the people in his congregation at the church he preaches at) JUST BECAUSE HE DOESN'T LIKE FLYING COMMERCIAL. I'm sure there's passages in the Bible saying having LOTS OF MONEY ONLY BRINGS EVIL HIS WAY! (Or something to that affect) KENNETH AND GLORIA COPELAND HAVE TURNED RIDICULOUS IN THEIR OLD AGE! Remember, it was over 30 years ago when I actually followed them. They were old THEN! They're ANCIENT NOW!
kd7eir
Jim Myers 20
Matthew 19:24

Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
cheshire
Cal Keegan 17
Yeah, Jesus said suffer the little children to come unto me, not get these people away from me, they're harshing my vibe.
lynx318
lynx318 3
Normally scripture quotes bug me, but that one to make the point stand out is brilliant. Thumbs up.
chris13
Chris Bryant 11
"But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction." - 1 Timothy 6:9
kbraniff
kbraniff 9
Heck he had a demon in himself! When surprised by the reporter the demon just popped through his eyes!

All pastors should pay taxes!!! There was a time, but no more! These charlatans think they’re beyond that, I say bull - they hide behind their congregation and fleece the flock! Waiting for there numbers to go up for the cha-Ching and repackage the same sermons after three years!
kbraniff
kbraniff 2
Correction: “Their numbers” not there numbers!
siriusloon
siriusloon 16
What he's basically done is wave to the IRS and say "audit me" and to the FBI and say "investigate me for fraud". If you donate to churches and so-called churches and say that "this is money for Bibles for homeless people", by law they either have to spend it on that or return your money. If they put it towards yet another private jet or another mansion or another Rolls-Royce, they're breaking the law. This was what finished off Jim and Tammy Faye Baker of the PTL Club many years ago. (Jimmy banging his secretary didn't help.) If (ha!) Copeland is diverting donations to other purposes and/or skimming from the proverbial collection plate, his bizarre interview has just attracted attention that he will soon regret. Makes my day. :-)
breezyjr
breezyjr 2
Most of the time they don't ask for donations for specific things, just for this reason... I belong to a church, and occasionally you will see them asking for donations for certain things around the church, like recently an upgrade to the organ... But, most times we just donate a $ amount, and there isn't any specificity to it...
kbraniff
kbraniff 1
Next Duplantis, Creflo Dollar, TD Jakes, Joel Olsteen, etc.
jdriskell
James Driskell 8
This guy is cast from the same mold that made PT Barnum.
fa4gar
Glenn Roark 6
And Donald Trump
ghstark
Greg S 8
What's funny is that the Kenneth Copelands of the world are all secret atheists: they surely don't believe they'll ever have to answer in the next world for defrauding the gullible in this.
M20ExecDriver
M20ExecDriver 7
On tv, Jimmy Swaggart was asking people to send him their beer money.I feel bad for people that subscribe to these charlatans. If there's a hell, they're going there for sure.
johnrumble99
John Rumble 7
Copland needs a well placed Smite in the form of a bolt of lightning or a dropped piano
bingobanner
Russ Brown 8
How about an ACME safe?
lynx318
lynx318 2
Acme anvil. Wile E. Coyotland???
bpanther
bpanther 7
HE SHOULD LISTEN TO GEORGE CARLIN !!!
gregmermel
Greg Mermel 6
I'm a bit surprised that he didn't claim the jets were one each for the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
lynx318
lynx318 2
Ba-Dum-Tss :)
sanukjim
James Wilson Jr 6
Ah Yes, Like the words in the song that Hank Williams Jr sings about these evangelists " They tell you to send your money to God, but they give you their address".
alan75035
alan75035 6
What would Jesus fly?
a1brainiac
a1brainiac 6
What a pompous ass
a1brainiac
a1brainiac 6
I had to throw up after listening to this lying con man who steals from the poor with a smile...
airportannie
Anne Lawson 6
Hm, would Jesus wear a Rolex on his television show?
btweston
btweston 15
Man. I need to start lying to people.
Atwater
Norman Atwater 5
That would rank Graham as one of America’s eight richest pastors, Beliefnet.com reported. Graham’s estimated $25 million net worth is equal to that of Rick Warren, but lower than pastors such as Joel Osteen ($40 million) and Kenneth Copeland ($760 million).

Forbes has reported that two nonprofits associated with Billy Graham are among the biggest charities in the U.S. Samaritan’s Purse posted revenues of $635 million in 2016, while the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association had $101 million in revenues in 2010. Both organizations are now run by Billy Graham’s son William Franklin Graham III, who is paid well for his leadership roles. Better known as Franklin Graham, he received a whopping total of $1.2 million in 2008 and $880,000 in compensation in 2014 for running the two charities, according to the Charlotte Observer.
jdriskell
James Driskell 5
This type of person knows there is nothing beyond their current level of awareness, so they are making hay while the sun shines without a care for their future. The TV interviewer should have grabbed the clown by the finger he was waving in her face and bent sideways.
M20ExecDriver
M20ExecDriver 8
Another con man:

https://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/joel-osteens-house-1/
obrun26
Robert OBrien 4
Genesis’ 1990s ‘Jesus He Knows Me’ satire comes true....
hvyjet
Bob Wilson 3
I understand he is a furoughed American Pilot from way back too so maybe "god" gave him the talent to fly and spread the "word" flying all those expensive airplanes...grin
DTBMF
Daniel Gless 3
The man and his sheep like followers have a screw loose, or don't have screws at all to get loose. This is a man who preaches against vaccination....perhaps he doesn't want to get measles on a 737 with the rabble that follow him? Me thinks that could be the real need for private planes in his eyes....;-)
A pox upon their houses.
hvyjet
Bob Wilson 3
Copeland was a furloughed American pilot,,,,turn evangelist----that a great gig living on one of the nicest properties in Fort Worth on Eagle Mountain Lake with your own airport.

A pilots dream come true
hal1034
Harold Lippold 3
Just another 3 dollar bill showing what you can get away with by taking care of your local politician.
mariofer
mariofer 3
I feel the same way. Miami traffic is too evil and traumatic for me. I'm going to request helo transfers to and from work from my employer. I'll post pictures.....
N204TA
N204TA 3
How's he supposed to justify that nice private airport without a few nice jets?
TelW
Terry Wright 3
It always amazes me how gullible Americans are to keep feeding these people, totally unbelievable.
hotkiwi
Johan Rosman 4
A parasite with 3 planes. Religion as the basis of all problems.
PegLegJim
Jim Welch 6
I saw the interview a young lady had with him, and pressed him for the details of why he needed these airplanes, and with all due respect, this guy is a WHACK JOB!!
When I think of the poor folks that are gullible enough to fall for his rhetoric, it helps me to understand how the current occupant of the White House landed there.
“There’s one born every minute.”
SAD.
s0uthsider
Thomas Agrednerp 2
Actually, the devil made him do it!
MarkStorm
Mark Storm 2
Remind me of the TV preacher who said God said he had to have a G650. Maybe he had a point. With a service ceiling of FL51000 that's about as close to heaven as you're going to get! Cash your social security retirement people and send it to me. LOL
n555cf
rbt schaffer 2
Maybe the 'demon' on the plane is him.
imtxsmoke
Jeffrey Bue 2
This dude's compound (as I call it) it less than 2 miles from my home. He's got several business jets and helicopters over there. Owns thousands of acres of land next to Eagle Mountain lake. The tele - evangelist business must be good. He's been doing it for over 30 years.
GaAubie
Ken Hardy 2
I would like to talk to Copeland and see if he would loan me his congregation for a while, I have a plan for a nice Beach home I would like to build.
Coalora
Coalora 2
"His jet is getting old."
Jm255114
John Martin 2
The demon lives inside him so best he flyes in his own planes
Bobqat
Bob Harrington 2
Archaeologists Uncover Jesus's Gulfstream Jet - Babylon Bee

https://babylonbee.com/news/archaeologists-uncover-jesuss-gulfstream-jet
lynx318
lynx318 3
"In 2016 he called flying commercial getting in 'a long tube with demons'
The 82-year-old claims he wasn't talking about the people on planes
But he said watching someone get dragged off a plane made him want to punch"

In other words it's not about the people, just the unwashed masses. Can't see forest for the trees.
richardorgill
Richard Orgill 3
For the first one million people who send me a dollar, I will send you my new book, on how to become a millionaire.... handling/shipping cost not included.

How did Clint Eastwood put it...he ain't my brother so preacher man you put them up.
ah6oy
Jim DeTour 3
Billy Graham had an air conditioned dog house for his dog plus major luxuries. They'll never change. It's like the bible is an Art Of The Deal story telling book for them. On the crooked side having an air service company separate from the church that takes money out of the church to put it back into his holdings and use then I'd think its an easy bust.
mikeenderle
Michael Enderle 3
Why is this here? We get it, he's a hypocritical nutjob douchebag. This has almost nothing to do with aviation. And a side note that Christians don't condone this behavior and are not this guy. Real churches are doing incredible work in this world. And they've doing it on a shoe string budget while paying their own organization hardly anything.
KineticRider
Randy Marco 1
The REAL question is why are YOU here... the headline of the post was exceedingly clear, if you didn’t want to read and/or comment on the religious hucksters buying aircraft, then move along.

There are far better YouTube videos on aviation that are FAR more educational and informational than ANYTHING you are going to read on this forum! You clearly are not a critical thinker, actually my adding "critical" was overly generous.
Quirkyfrog
Robert Cowling 3
THIS is why the GOP wants to make churches able to contribute and support politicians, and political parties. They are atracked to all piles of money, especially piles of money from people that want power. It's quid pro quo. Give us money, insure our longevity in office, and we give you power, a theology in America.

These frauds have GOBS of money! Cold hard cash, and they have, collectively, billions of wide eyed and slack jawed followers willing to give away their last $20 to a lying stealing fraud claiming they are going to heaven, and vote for whomever they say.

Prostitution isn't the 'oldest profession', it's religious frauds controlling the people. The sheeple.

One 'pastor' in northern Michigan, whose wife drives around in a gold edition Cadillac, declared to his flock of idiots that God spoke to him, and told him that he needs a new jet airplane to help 'spread the word'. So he did the old 'God is threatening to kill' me ploy, and sure enough, his 'flock' suffered and scrimped enough to get him his private jet. In an area with record poverty. I heard people were mortgaging their homes to supply him with money. Selling their furniture, and doing without medication and food.

Being a preacher is a hell of a racket...

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK7b1FL5yE8
speedbird347
Derek Vaughn 3
I'm sure Jesus agrees with this.
KineticRider
Randy Marco 0
Exactly Robert, you can't fix or prevent sheeple.

Most people are uneducated, weak, lost souls trying to "find reasons" for their inadequacies, which of course IS religion!
spdmrcht
Ron Lorenz 2
Can't leave out sharpton and jackson!
fdea
Frank De Amaral 2
Religion is the root of all evil.
kbraniff
kbraniff 1
Next Duplantis, Creflo Dollar, TD Jakes, Joel Olsteen, etc

They all need to be humbled rescind the non profit status!
rwkochman
Robert Kochman 1
Any more GulfstreamV out there for $3mm?
hogie65
Ian Hogarth 1
God does indeed work in mysterious ways ......
airstars
mike bednar 1
Just googled his net worth. 760 MILLION!
ceja111
Edgar Reyes 1
And this is why I do not believe in religions or churches. They do not pay any taxes and the blood sucking ministers get rich TAX FREE. Lets tax the hell out of them. If we do this the fake churches will disappear as the tax break will not be there any longer to support them.
jmilazzo
joe milazzo 0
Hey, good for him. If he can fine thousands of idiots to fund his lifestyle then good for him!
lynx318
lynx318 5
Probably promotes outside Trump rallies, plenty of gullibles at those....just saying.
ceja111
Edgar Reyes 1
Makes me mad haw many gullible (idiots) people are exploted and TAX FREE. REALLY makes me think about starting a TAX FREE religion. JUST TELL THEM WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR. Nothing else.
allanrbowman
Allan Bowman 0
It is the suckers living in their single wides that fund this hypocrite. Get a brain people.
LASERLASER
Jesus Pijuan -5
when much is given much is required. the word of GOD never goes out void. i watch Pastor Copland for many years and his preaching help me in my faith and tough me how to fight the spiritual world. like Pastor Swaggard and others. if anyone is reading the BIBLE you will find that the best of the best failed, or where the weakest of the bunch or the least. i will not judge Pastor Copeland due to i am a sinner just like him saved by grace. when the telephone pole is taken out of our eyes we can see better. GOD new Pastor Copeland before he was in his mother's womb. HE knows where he is. you all in the ministry remember love one another that is how others now we belong to JESUS. I love you all no matter what you do.
DELTA8
Mario Gxx 0
thanks oh Lord!!
for stepping away from the bad apples, attentively, commercial pilots 😅😇
devsfan
ken young 0
Copeland is correct about one thing. Some commercial PAX behave as though they were demonically possessed.

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JMARTINSON
JMARTINSON 11
Yes really... because if hypocrisy could fly, this guy wouldn't need a jet.
siriusloon
siriusloon 6
Mark 10:11-12 — “Whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery against her. And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery.”

Copeland has been divorced twice.

Poor Kenny is only #1 on the list of richest pastors in America.

In 2009, Copeland's $3.6 million jet was denied tax-exempt status, opening up a possible investigation into the church's expenses; Copeland failed to disclose the salaries of his directors. In 2008 the ministry stated it owned five airplanes, one of which is valued at $17.5 million. Copeland's ministry bought a multi-million Gulfstream V jet airplane and Copeland thanked his followers and Jesus for buying it when it was delivered at the Fort Worth airstrip, wearing a pilot jacket and sunglasses. The jet was bought from filmmaker and businessman Tyler Perry. Now the church is asking another $17 to $19.5 million for the building of a hangar, upgrading the runway, and maintenance.
outward
Jimmy Robinson 6
For Kenneth Copeland, it's all about money and things. If God ever decides to deal with him on his ministry, watch out.
Pilotsimon123
Richard Simon -2
He didn’t say 3 jets. He said 3 planes. And that other ministers use them. At least state the facts of your going to put all caps on words.
lynx318
lynx318 2
Betting he is the sole user of the Gulfstream, 'other' ministers only get use of the Citations. By the way it is 3 jets, the other two are a 750 Citation X and 550 Citation Bravo.

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siriusloon
siriusloon 11
What part of him owning three business jets and talking about airlines is not "aviation-related" in your exalted opinion, Pete? If you didn't want to read the article, then don't read it. You don't decide for the forum what is an acceptable topic here. You just decide what YOU read, not anyone else.
SkeetMandeville
Skeet Mandeville -6
Agree! Religion = Fake News.
linbb
linbb -3
How true you know do as I say not as I do they need to pay there way as those who go often look down at those who don't.
outward
Jimmy Robinson -3
What an absolutely, stupid, asinine statement.

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